Why do so many great songs disappear inside Nashville publishing catalogs?
Kurt Allison, Tully Kennedy, Kelley Lovelace and Neil Thrasher explain how traditional song pitching has changed—and why fewer music-driven people are digging through old catalogs to uncover forgotten gems. They compare today’s emails and writing-room connections with the days when passionate song pluggers personally delivered demos and knew every song in a writer’s catalog.
The guys also introduce a new game: What jobs would country stars have if they weren’t famous? Tim McGraw becomes a realtor, Chris Young gets several surprising career options, and Ella Langley lands everywhere from Boot Barn to Bass Pro Shops.
Plus: listener reactions to the Sam Smith and Grand Ole Opry debate, Keith Urban’s yacht-rock project, Taylor Swift’s tribute to Dolly Parton, Jason Aldean’s remarkable radio career, an alarming 50-milligram gummy experience, overpriced movie popcorn, In-N-Out Burger and another round of DipShidiot.
Who should the guys put through the “If They Weren’t Famous” game next?
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01:43 Golfing with Chad Prather
03:37 Could the guys beat Mahomes and Kelce at pickleball?
09:03 Brett Saberhagen and the Saves Wings event
10:32 Viewers react to the Opry controversy
11:36 Should country artists wear shorts onstage?
12:41 Keith Urban’s yacht-rock project
13:37 The paternity-leave debate
15:39 Has the podcast become too negative?
19:38 Madonna, Taylor Swift and Dolly Parton
23:27 The danger of mystery supplements
26:42 A disastrous 50-milligram gummy
28:34 If country stars weren’t famous
29:38 Chris Young’s alternate careers
32:46 Tim McGraw the realtor?
35:43 Where would Ella Langley work?
39:03 Jason Aldean’s historic radio run
40:26 Why Nashville no longer finds old songs
45:17 How song pitching became impersonal
49:02 The price of going to the movies
51:29 The worst movie for eating popcorn
53:26 Is In-N-Out Burger overrated?
57:32 This week’s DipShidiot
61:35 The invisible speed bump
63:28 Kelley left the oven on all day
64:14 Neil nearly created a backyard explosion
67:00 Name the new segment
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